WHERE Is God ?

Where is God ?

The pantheist believes God is everywhere ... in all things.
The fundamentalist/literalist believes God is in His heaven.
The Roman Catholic believes God is mysteriously present in wafers kept in a small vault.
The ancient Hebrews believed God was inside the Ark of the Covenant, in a moving cloud by day, and a column of fire by night.
No doubt there are other beliefs and theories of which I am ignorant.

The central theme of these beliefs is that they assign to God a position, or location, in a time and space continuum in spite of agreeing that God is timeless, or eternal.

Several questions prod my curiosity and direct my thoughts.

Does God have a center, or core, in His being?

The question itself betrays my reality. I, in my body, exist in a three dimensional state inside what we label 'cosmos' or universe. We have heard that this 'known' universe is expanding; has been expanding since its inception.

Expanding to where?
Is there empty space beyond the edge of our cosmos, waiting to be occupied by our expanding physical universe? Or does the expansion create the space it occupies?

When the 'big bang' occurred, where did it happen?

Scientists continue trying to identify the "center" of the universe ... the point from which all expansions proceeds outward.

Is that 'where' God resides?
If so, 'where' was God before He spoke the cosmos into existence, when there was nothing; no 'space' and no 'time'.

God could not have existed as a point in space or time because space and time did not exist.

God pre-exists all. We label this concept omnipresence ... always there. Always.

Did the mind of God create time and space around Himself? Or did He create it within himself? Or neither?
The first two alternatives are couched in terms requiring space. Inside, outside, up, down, are all spatial terms.

He told us
"Seek the LORD while he may be found". [Isaiah 55:6]

This verse implies that there will come a time when God can not be found. In the natural, physical, realm, this is certainly so. The creation displays His handiwork, but the creation is of God; it is not God Himself.

Is the cosmos separate from God or an integral part of God?
Can, or could, the cosmos exist without God sustaining its existence.

As I understand the matter, my answer is "No".
Yet I must recognize that God is omnipotent; all powerful in our terms. Having all power, God apparently is capable of anything, including creating a separate state of existence which is either temporal or self sustaining and therefore eternal following its inception. This is not the same as true eternality. Eternal means having no beginning and no end. This proposition can be spoken of and thought about, but not actually realized by the human mind.

Infinity is merely a concept in contrast to temporality.

It is not possible to conceive a being which did not come into being from some source, and such source would itself necessarily have pre-existed the being from which it sprang, and so on, ad infinitum.

Holy Writ tells us many things about God, including this from Saint Paul writing his first letter to the church at Corinth "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."[1 Cor 2:14 KJV]

Jesus told us God is a Spirit.

Trouble is, we don't know what a spirit is.
Historically we associate spirits with netherworld beings such as angels, demons, ghosts, and the like. Our collective experience of these spirits is that they sometimes are manifest as visible beings, and sometimes not.

When an angel appeared as a visible being, generally human in form but with divine attributes, was that angel physically present in our cosmos? Or might it have been something akin to a hologram projected from other than our cosmic existence?

There is no doubt that God is "alive and well" somewhere. We, by our very nature, can only imagine God as having form, however nebulous, which is measurable and definable and which occupies a place.

In my own deepest dreaming I have walked up a long, broad, flight of crystalline steps toward the entrance of an immense palace formed of crystal material which shimmered with light emanating from somewhere within ... presumably God's throne.

This vision is a visual construct. Perhaps it is fabricated from what I have seen, heard, or read, or it might be a gift of sight to help me resolve these issues. And lastly, it may be a true vision of God manifesting Himself in this manner. What it is does not matter.

Moses was hid in a rock cleft so he could safely glimpse the glory of God's backside as He passed by.

Then the LORD said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.” [Exodus 33:21-23 NIV ©2011]

This passage indicates that God was personally present on Mount Sinai, that He has/had a visible body including at least one hand, and a face which presumably was on a head. The description sounds very much like some sort of superman being, or alien visitor with extraordinary powers. He was sufficiently large in size that His hand alone could cover a cleft large enough to hold a man.

This is extraordinary data.
Was that figure almighty God Himself? An emissary?

Most likely, in my view, a powerful manifestation of God projected in time and space for a specific purpose. Unless I am willing to believe that God lives, unseen, on a mountain in the Middle East on Earth, I must regard this event as some visitation.

Ultimately I am unable to accept that God is a being with form in a place.

God is something and someone other than all the manifestations which occurred and continue to occur in the natural world.

The abode of God is Himself.

He is who He is and we may never gain the true knowledge of God.

I have every confidence that I will enter, have entered already, eternal life in His presence because I am one of the many following the first born, Yeshua, Jesus, The Christ. Yet, even in His presence, I despair knowing Him beyond whatever manifestation He allows me to perceive with spiritual sight.

I hope I am wrong and will come to fully comprehend His beingness.

Perhaps when I return to Him as spirit, I will have a mind capable of such understanding. I can not now imagine how I will "see" without eyes.

'But as it is written: “ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” ' [1 Cor 2:9 KJV][Isaiah 64:4-5]

Sagaverus April 2011

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